----------------------------------- Grim Thu 17 Aug, 2006 Received this from my ISP today... ----------------------------------- Check this shit out! Dear Customer, This email contains important information regarding your broadband account. Your broadband Internet usage has been highlighted as exceptionally high during peak periods and is affecting the service that we provide to other customers. All of our users have the right to an acceptable quality of service, and to ensure this Tiscali employs a Fair Use Policy (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/fup). This gives Tiscali the right to manage customers whose usage adversely affects our network and the service of other customers. This is referred to in clause 8.4 of the Terms and Conditions of our Broadband service (note clauses 5.9 in the old Terms and Conditions if you registered before 2005) and detailed in our Fair Use Policy (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/fup). You may upload and download as you wish outside the peak hours; however we ask that you are considerate when using the internet during the peak period. Peak hours are from 6pm to 11pm Monday to Sunday. To avoid any further heavy use warnings we strongly recommend you adhere to the following guidelines: o) Do not download large files during the peak periods o) Do not use Peer-to-Peer file sharing software during peak periods (e.g. Kazaa, BitTorrent) o) Try and keep internet use to email and web browsing during these times. If you do not reduce your usage during these peak times we will manage your usage. This means that you will share bandwidth with other heavy users during peak times instead of sharing bandwidth with normal users. Your service will continue to be unlimited, but by sharing bandwidth with other heavy users you are likely to experience slower speeds during peak times. If you have a query regarding this letter then you can email broadbandservices@uk.tiscali.com Important Note: When emailing please use your Tiscali email address (username@tiscali.co.uk) and use the following reference in the subject line "FUP Warning1". It may prove difficult for us to process any queries or requests without this information. Yours Sincerely I told em to kiss my ass, and now I'm going to download even more, if they restrict me again off to a new ISP for me :lol: ----------------------------------- hbgator Thu 17 Aug, 2006 Re: Received this from my ISP today... ----------------------------------- pure bullshit I say ----------------------------------- peiratns Thu 17 Aug, 2006 Re: Received this from my ISP today... ----------------------------------- They call the "service" unlimited usage? huh! Kiss your ass is just the politest comment to that! ----------------------------------- jkf Thu 17 Aug, 2006 Re: Received this from my ISP today... ----------------------------------- Some of these ISPs need to get slapped with a Class Action Suit for the bait and switch from telling you that its "UNLIMITED" then only at non-peak hrs... and its in usually in the fineprint and not on the billboard advertisement. In most cases, they have commercial accounts that pay big money for guaranteed large bandwidth and they are the ones that the ISPs are trying to protect because they need their money more than ours. ----------------------------------- aiolos Thu 17 Aug, 2006 Re: Received this from my ISP today... ----------------------------------- I read that BT did something similar. Someone should sue them. If the service has limitations they should say so. Then the consumer can make their choice based on the facts and not on false advertising. ----------------------------------- Atrocity Thu 17 Aug, 2006 ----------------------------------- lol. thas some crazy shit. I have an "Unlimited" package as well. But I cant exceed 30GB a month. I asked why they say "unlimited" and they couldn't give me a solid answer. Fuck them. Ima download a DVD collection thas like 7 gigs and seed all month. LOL. ----------------------------------- Grim Thu 17 Aug, 2006 ----------------------------------- I am going to move ISP if they throttle my download speeds at all, they havent done it yet but they are threatening to, it just doesnt make sense to route the people reading emails and doing casual browsing through the faster pipes, surely the people who download heavily need the faster one!?!?! I might have to go back with AOL (Spit) since they offer a TRUE unlimited service, 1 month I done over 250GB and they didnt even bat an eye-lid at it, but at the same time they give out customers search records who are silly enough to use the supplied AOL software, good job I used to enter my settings manually into the Windows XP modem settings. The bottom line is instead of throttling my/others download speed they should stick their hand in their pocket and pay for more bloody bandwidth out of the vast profits they make :x I sent them this earlier: Well I thought this is meant to be an unlimited service but I now find it has limits, I will try and keep most of the main downloads to the midday but I dont expect to have to limit downloading when I come home from work and just browse the web instead, I dont use p2p software at night, I barely even use it at all because it's slow, a nightmare, and ruins your PC. What if I want to play online games or stream music when I get home from work, or watch videos on youtube/google video and I'm limited to 30 Kb/s or some other ridiculous speed, it's going to be a lame/slow experience, online gaming needs lots of bandwidth and so does video streaming which is why I brought the MAX package... A couple questions regarding this: 1: Why cant you route heavy (Tiscali MAX) users to a pipe with more bandwidth, after all, we are paying for a supposedly unlimited service? 2: What kind of speeds is it limited to on the heavy users pipe? 3: How much downloading (in Gb's) during 6-11pm constitutes as being unfair? 4: Can I still backout of the contract and cancel this service? I really am not satisfied about all this, and would like for you to provide clear details about your usage policy so I know exactly where I stand, not just a page that mostly tells me that p2p software is a line hogger and that we will get routed through the slow lane of the highway if we use too much.